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                           Compiled by: The Atom
                               March 3 1985


This file is divided into 2 sections, one being for loser pirate's, the second
being for loser phreak's. To be included the person in question must meat two

1) He/It must be well known in his area with at least 50 + people who would 
   consider them well known.

2) He/It must have at least 50 people who hate them very much to be included
   here. I am only the compiler of what many people think of the people who
   will follow.

And we're off...

                               LOSER PIRATE'S

1] The official loser pirate of the year award goes to none other then:
                                APPLE BANDIT.
   This once great pirate has become a sniveling money-grubbing programmer.
   who bitches and moans about people pirating his software. He should talk
   considering all the people he's robbed of their just revenues in the past.
   Come on AP get real, you should know by now there is no way to stop piracy
   sell your programs to the legitimate luses, dont whine about pirates doing
   what you've been doing for so damn long.
   APPLE BANDIT R.I.P., he will be missed, many respected him, taking his place
   is a wimp programmer by the name of John Pacachek (jeez get a real name).

A] Personal Info: Tried to enter the business world by selling his own software
   while it is great software, he made the mistake of trying to make real pirat
   es purchase it, it of course blew up in his face, end of story. Also never 
   came through with Disk-Fer II, which is still posted on his bbs "The Safe-
   House" as "coming this march (of 84)" yeah right John..., we're still wait
   ing, and probably will be for a really long time.

B] Supporters, Minion's, etc.
   Mini Appler - Has become a AP ][.
   Hot Rod - Told him to go screw and founded the Racks

C] Groups associated with:

   MPG - Dead and buried
   1200 Club - Ditto

D] Education level, age:
   Around 18, either senior, or entering collage.

E] Goals
   To get rich quick

F] Hero's : Krackowicz

G] Sysop: Safehouse (Great board, he can program very well, in nothing else)


2] Mini Appler

   Came very close to being #1, but his good buddy beat him to it. Would sell
   his grandmother if it was profitable, makes (& sells) programs which need
   25 new revisions before they work right. Is an excellent programmer, but
   a far cry from a real pirate.

A] Personal Info: Co-Founded Dataware with AP, fellow loser, it's rumored they
   get their thrills Disk-Fer IIing to each other (they being the sole posesors
   of the much heralded Disk-Fer II)

B] Supporter's, Minion's, etc.
   Apple Bandit - His best & only friend
   that's about it

C] Groups Associated with:
   MPG - Dead and buried.

D] Education level,age
   Unkown probably about the same as AP

E] Goals.
   To get rich quick

F] Hero's : Apple Bandit

G] Sysop: Pixel's Palace (Incredible board, give it a call with Pixterm 4.0)


3] The Wombat & The Gonif

   Official code mutilators of the year. Facing facts, catsend (all versions)
   is a mess. The 1st version worked, so they improved it by making it 4 times
   as long, and absolutely impossible over long distance. Since AP never came
   through with Disk-Fer II, we've had to deal with Catsend for the year, in
   other words it's been a real bad year, and when you want to send anything
   out of state its back to disk-fer.

A] Personal Info: Made a fair attempt at improving 202 transfer programs with
   the advent of catsend 1.0, ruined it from there onwards.

B] Friends, Minion's, etc.
   They always have each other....

C] Groups Associated with:

PPG - Pacific Pirates Guild (cracked 3-4 wares and dissapeared)

D] Education level,age
   Both in high school, 17-19

E] Goals
   to learn 6502 suffiecintly well to write catsend 4.0 so that it actually

F] Hero's : Apex school of 6502 programming

G] Sysop: Of nothing at all


4] Ali Baba
   Actually Ali Baba cant even program, he is just a poor little rich kid, who
   wanted to be real good in piracy so he buys wares for people to crack, & put
   his name on them. Runs the Arabian Dezert, a pathetic bbs, a perfect example
   of what a bbs should not be, spinning cursors, idiotic modz with a capital z
   loves rap music, which isnt music at all. Is just a all around loser who 
   thinks highly of himself.

A] Personal Info: Used to live in lower manhattan (NYC) but he got mugged so
   often that his parents moved to westchester. No-one knows why he likes raps
   so much, considering that fact that he is a 98 lb. wimp, who lives in mortal
   fear of black people coming to kill him.

B] Friend's Minion's, etc.
   The Cog - they share a common interest in mutiliating english.

C] Groups Associated with

   High Society - He is the founder of this loser group. Since no real pirate
   group would actually accept him as a member, he went out and founded his

D] Education level,age
   In High School,17

E] Goals
   To survive the next year without getting mugged.

F] Hero's : Anyone who can program in basic better then he can (99% of the 
            worlds population)

G] Sysop: Arabian Dezert (Sux)


5] Hot Rod
   Too much too soon, is a great prorammer, but rushes things so fast that he
   mutilates the code, as a result just about everything he has ever cracked
   requires 5-10 new patches and fixes before it works right.

A] Personal Info: founded the racketeers.

B] Friends, Minion's, etc.
   All The Racks
   Mini Appler

C] Groups Associated with:


D] Education level,age
   Entered collage in JAN, 19

E] Goals
   To Crack a ware right the first time.

F] Hero's : The Racketeers, he loves himself & his group

G] Sysop: Nothing at all


                        LOSER PIRATE GROUPS OF THE YEAR

Rackateers win!
         It's more like "The Racketeer" (Hot Rod), the rest of the members 
         are mostly losers. Every ware ever cracked by this group has 
         ***NEVER*** worked right the first time, it always has to be recracked
         20 times.

Apple Mafia

         A close second, we are centering on Major Groups, not the small time 
         groups who have delusions of granduer (High Society). This group is
         the oldest surviving pirate group (1979), when it cracks wares they
         work right, and everything would be cool, except Why are 90% of this
         groups members Phreaks? (BIOC Agent 003, Lord Digital, Big Brother,
         Tuc, The Phantom, etcetc)? the only members who ever crack anything
         are High Technology & Creative Cracker. This group should maybe go on
         on a new member drive, or just quit.


                          LOSER PHREAKS OF THE YEAR

1] And the winner is:
                             BIOC Agent 003
   Like we all understand the constant quest for fame everyone is on, but come
   on BIOC, every file you ever wrote is plagerized from older files which you
   don't credit, you just colect them in basic telcom & slap your name on them
   telcom 5 and up is copied piece for piece out of radio shack's books on 
   understanding telephone systems. Come on get real. 

A] Personal Info: (The phreaks all seem to have a lot of it)
   BIOC is hated by a hell of alot of people for many reasons. He is hated by
   the other elite phreaks who despise him for giving out information to anyone
   who will listen long enough to let him speak. He is hated by MCI Mail for 
   distributing his files all over it. He is hated by most "Real Phreaks" who
   think he is a loser. On the other hand he is worshipped by a incredibly huge
   following of total losers. His real first name is Donald. Currently resides
   in 914. Remote Sysop of Sherwood Forest II (A Awesome board, even if the 
   sysop (Creative Cracker) never looks at it).

B] Friends, Minion's, etc.

   Big Brother
   Apple Mafia
   His fans (millions)

C] Groups Associated with:

   Fargo 4a - Whatever that is
   Apple Mafia - Phreaks pirate group
   Knights Of Shadow - Dead & Buried
   Plagarists Of America

D] Education level,age
   In High School, 18

E] Goals
   To organise the phreak world

F] Hero's : The Apex school of correct punctuation & typing skills.

G] Sysop: Remote sysop on Sherwood Forest ][ & ]I[ (Great bbs' call them!)


2] Criminal Element
   Is said to posses no real skills, his major claim to fame is knowing Lord 
   Digital, & some old OSUNY phreaks. Is a double loser in the phreak world
   as well as the pirate world. Tried to start "EPG" (eastern pirate's guild)
   his pathetic attempt at piracy. 

A] Personal Info:
   Is supposedly one of the business partners of Lord Digital, resides in 212 
   or 718, and his major interest in life has to be making a pain in the ass
   of himself, is rumored to be a winner in the real world (meaning he has 
   alot of $$$). His main love in life is money, and making more of it.

B] Friend's, Minion's, etc.
   Lord Digital
   The Phantom (ancient pirate who supposedly started the Disk Jockey & The 
                Connection, is now a reclusive phreak.)
   His fans (yes he has them in the 100's only, not fanatic)

C] Groups Associated with:

   EPG - Great joke, is dead anyway
Spectral Force - Old phreak group, had many prestigous members in the past
                 (Magnetic Surfer, Lord Digital, The Phantom, Phone Fiend,
 Ripoff Businessmen are us

Just about any group that Lord Digital has anything to do with has CE as some
sort of member in it, they appear to be very close real world friends.

Side Note - The phreaks in 212/718 (Magnetic Surfer, Lord Digital, The Phantom,
Criminal Element, Phone Fiend, etc) seem to be all (some to a greater extent)
very good real world friends, notwithstanding what might happen in the Modem
world. They all show great disdain for the "structured" world of the new phreak
groups (like LOD, *ELITE*, etc) and consider anyone who came into existance
after 1983 a bad joke (ie just about all the new phreaks who take it seriously)
All "No longer give a fuck, because corporate america beckons". They are being
included because of the widespread laugh appeal of EPG, and because of the fact
that alot of them are hated intensly by new people in the phreak world, (King
Blotto, etc)

D] Education level,age
   Collage dropout (or still in collage) Pace University, 22-23

E] Goals.
   To spend more money in 1985 then he did in 1984.

F] Hero's : Anyone with more money then him.

G] Sysop: Remote Sysop of 6-12 boards, which he never calls.


3] Lord Digital
   Many people hate him, seems to have a massive superiority complex. Started
   1984 as a major pirate/phreak, seemed to get software 30 seconds after it
   was cracked, dissappeared around August. Has an insanely fanatic following
   in 212/718 which generates ridiculus rumors. The last of which was that LD &
   Paul Maud'Dib were killed in a car wreck. Such bullshit surfaces on a
   regular basis. Supposedly has dropped out of the entire BBS circut because
   no-one there had anything to say of interest to him. This pissed off even
   more people who started to hate him even more, and so on & on.

A] Personal Info: 
   Seems to be deaply into mainframes. Rumors surface every other week that 
   he has written some new killer program, thats not being given out, etc. I
   would assume this to be BS, but many people claim to have seen the said
   programs, etc. Is supposedly very friendly with various curropt nynex emp
   loyees in his home area code of 212 or 718. And along with Paul Maud'Dib is 
   said to be the leading expert on ESS, and how to make it do what you want.
   From what people know about him, he is a "arogant jerk", has actual friends
   in organized crime in NY, etc. Saying he's "Well Connected" with the right
   (Depending on how you look at it) people would probably sum it up. Also 
   is a winner in the real world and making mega-bucks as a wall street
   financial wizard.

B] Friends, minions, etc.
   Criminal Element
   The Phantom 
   Paul Maud'Dib
   Magnetic Surfer
   The Plague (His english to assembly convertor (supposedly could be a winner
               in the pirate world if he cared (he doesnt appear to)))
   His Investment Consular
   His Stock Broker
   His fans (Fanatic Millions, a BIOC ][)

Note: LD is included mainly because so many people seem to hate him, so no 
loser list of phreaks is complete without him.

C] Groups Associated with:
   Apple Mafia - Phreaks pirate group
   Phantom Access Associates - Real company? or group? Unknown.
   Spectral Force - Ex Member
   Knights Of Shadow - Dead & Buried
   Corporate Raiders R us.

D] Education level,age
Dishonarable Expulsion from Dalton School in NYC, Is
supposedly going to MIT in late '85, 16-17

E] Goals: To spend more money a year then Criminal Element & to make 20 Million
   by the time he hits 20 yrs. old.

F] Hero's : Donald Trump

G] Sysop: Ran private board "Cosmos" on a mainframe for 2 months, Now runs 
   "BlackMoor" a private board which exists somewhere in 212/718, according
   to people who have seen it, it's massive, around 100 megs, multi-line,
   and open mostly to "real" corporate/computer criminals, as opposed to
   "elite phreaks". Remote Sysop of 6-12 boards at any given time, which as
   in the case of CE, he never calls.


4] Lex Luther
   Started the year as a total unknown, became remote sysop of Plovernet (A old
   major phreak board, now (you guessed it) dead & buried), then started adver
   tising about his new elite bbs "Legion Of Doom". According to people who 
   knew him before he went on his massive ego-trip which started the group LOD
   he doesnt actually know very much about anything, people just think he does
   so they feel free to give him more information. (People on OSUNY, such as
   The Penguin, & Big Brother support the opion that Lex dosnt really know too
   much, other phreaks are either under the misconception that he's great, or
   hate him intensely, or just dont care either way.) 

A] Personal Info:
   Has alot of connections in the phreak world because just about everyone who
   is currently active in the phreak area thinks he is great. No real connect-
   ions with any "real world people", Started the group "Legion Of Doom" (isnt
   he imaginative?), which seemed to prosper for about 6 months, & then sort 
   of fell apart. Out of the groups members Paul Maud'Dib quit, the rest are 
   still in it as far as anyone knows. Lex is intensely hated by 1000's of 
   phreaks who think he isnt good enough to warrant all the attention he gets
   the older phreaks who have dropped out of the phreak world at large, either
   never heard of him, or dont care what he's doing. He surfaces from time to
   time on public boards, and seems to get into wars with everyone. Is present-
   ly running the Legion of Doom BBS, which is supposedly "lousy"-"great!"
   since no-one who i talked to has actually ever been on it, who knows?. Lives
   somewhere in 305.

B] Friends, Minions, etc.
   Sharp Razor (his personal ass-kisser, who seems to be a all around pain in
                everyones ass in the phreak world.)
   King Blotto
   His fans (millions, a BIOC ]I[)

C] Groups associated with
   LOD - Now known as "FOD" (Farmers of Doom), incative
   Knights Of Shadow - Dead & Buried

D] Education level, age
   High School graduate, (either in collage or working),18-19

E] Goals: To have everyone in the entire phreak world universally admire him.

F] Hero's: Abbey Hoffman

G] Sysop: Legion Of Doom


5] King Blotto
   Started the year as a complete unkown, surfaced on the LOD bbs, started the
   board Blottoland in around June. Was a former operator, suposedly knows alot
   about boxing (if he was a operator then this should be true). Is hated by 
   1000's of people who think he is a loser, is known to turn in other peoples
   acounts on TRW, and CBI, is said to have narced on many people. His allowing
   Richard Sandza on his supposedly "elite, private & secure" bbs, seems to 
   greatly support this theory. (for those who dont know Sandza is the guy who
   did all those exposing newsweek stories that wouldnt have been possible with
   out Blotto's help.) Summed up blotto is really good with boxes, but very
   dangerous to your continued time of freedom on this earth. When you call up 
   his bbs he insist on your fone #, and if you give it to him, thats your
   death warrant, bell security comes knocking at yur door a week later. Anyway
   For those who care his super secret elite bbs, is real easy to get onto, i
   got the # off of my Megaterm for chrissake, some guy had entered it into
   the fone book, and now the world probably has it, for those of you who dont
   here it is: Blottoland : 216-888-6689

A] Personal Info:
   Is supposedly a punk rocker type. He is good buddies with Lex Luther, and 
   all the LOD members. He works for some security company, an alot of people
   surmise that he is actually a bell security agent, since he sprung up as
   an elite pheak out of nowhere, noone ever heard of him, and all of a sudden
   there are reporters all over his board and hes in newsweek. Something to 
   think about. His first name is John. Blotto is the originator of tele-trial
   & alot of pissed off people want to put him on one. Lives somewhere in 216

B] Friends, Minions, etc.
   Lex Luther
   Sharp Razer
   Bell Security
   Lots Of Reporters

C] Groups associated with:
   LOD - Inactive
   2300 Club - Total bullshit Joke
   *Elite* - Some group nothing much is known about.
   Feds R Us
D] Education level,age
   In Collage, early 20's

E] Goals: To turn in so many phreaks that he will be the only one left.

F] Hero's: KGB

G] Sysop: Blottoland, Remote sysop of 6-12 board at any given time.


6] Paul Maud'Dib
   Started the year as a unknown, but is supposedly very good with mainframes.
   Is said to know alot about ESS, and written some translater programs for it
   which he never gave out to anyone. Is supposedly good buddies with Lord
   Digital, and maybe some sort of business partner of LD's as well. Not too
   much is known about him, but alot of people hate him because he is also a
   massive "arogant jerk", and never shares his info with anyone. It is also
   rumored that he has turned people who he didnt like in, to bell security.

A] Personal Info:
   Not much is know about him, he is often called "remote sysop to the world"
   as just about every phreak board offers him remote sysop status. He was
   remote on Plovernet, and LOD. He is the only member of the group LOD to
   quit the group. he seems to have dissapeared as of late. Lives somwhere in
B] Friends, minion, etc.
   Lord Digital
   LOD - used to be, may hate him now
   His fans - Very few, but are convinced that he knows alot about fones that
              he isnt telling to anyone.
   ESS apreciation society

C] Groups accociated with:
   LOD - Quit
   Knights Of Shadow - Dead & buried
   Recursive Systems - Group? or Company? unknown.

D] Education level,age
   Either in Collage, or Collage dropout, early 20's

E] Goals: To have complete control over NY ESS.

F] Hero's: Hitler

G] Sysop: Remote sysop to just about anything he wants to be remote sysop to.
          However he never actually calls the boards in question. The last time
          he has been seen on a bbs was about 4 months ago.


7] Broadway Hacker
   This is the guy who invented Hack-A-Trip. His one great contribution to 
   the world as we know it. Other then for that one breif thing, he is a total
   loser. He annoys everyone in the phreak world. has a knack for getting
   peoples fone numbers, and calling them up out of nowhere, when they dont
   know him, and proceeding to annoy them to no end, until the #'s change.
   He is really a nobody, but is included because just about every phreak in
   the world hates him. There are sub-boards put up devoted to the hatred
   of BW.

A] Personal Info:
   Lives somwhere in Brooklyn Ny (718). Owns a Vic - 20 computer. And is on 
   just about every bbs in existance.

B] Friends, Minions, etc.
   The Wizard
   No one else.

C] Groups associated with
   Hack-A-Trip society

D] Education level,age
   High School dropout, early 20's

E] Goals: To avoid jail for the next 4 months.

F] Hero's : Sucessful petty criminals

G] Sysop: Runs his own bbs somewhere in 718


                     LOZER PHREAK GROUPS OF THE YEAR!

And The Knights Of Shadow Win!

      This elite group had more high-power names in it then any other group
      in existance before it, or since then. It also did nothing at all but
      annoy people. And it disintegrated when it became apparent that at 
      least 3 people within the group were narc's or Feds. Good job guys!
      real eliteness for you there. The surviving members of the group (surv
      iving meaning not busted, fled to Brazil, or dropped out of the Modem
      world) are the founders of just about every new elite phreak group in
      existance. It was a great idea, but no-one within the group ever did
      anything as a team, i guess this would stem from everyone in it being
      Mr. Super-Ego. Well its dead now.

And a not so close 2nd. LOD!

      Sort of Lex Luthers attempt at trying to follow in the footsteps of
      TKOS and start a new elite group. Well is failed miserably, and as 
      the group it was modeled after (TKOS) it did nothing at all, but 
      threaten people. In comparison to TKOS it was really a poor imitation
      while TKOS had mostly big-name phreaks in it, LOD started with a bunch
      of unkowns (Blotto, Razor, X-man, etc, basically the people who weren't
      considered good enough to get into TKOS itself) hoping the group would 
      become notorious enough on its own. It appears to have worked, and the 
      group LOD still exists, but it does nothing at all. So it hardly matters.
      Its sort of the phreak worlds parralel to the Racketeers. Alot of people
      respect it, because it just sesms like the thing to do. But it has never 
      actually done anything, its major claim to fame is the bbs Legion of Doom
      which was discussed under Lex Luther's entry.




Well thats it. The official 1984 loserlist. All people were given a fair chance
if there was some redeeming quality about them it was listed. If they were 
just total losers, then they were just ragged on. This is not my opinion alone
i want to stress that this all comes from other people who actualy know the 
people in question. The amount of data on the person in question is usually 
greater if they are more popular, and reflected in personal info sections. Some
of these people have their own fan clubs so it was ridiculously easy to collect
info on them. Thats wraps it up. I doubt any of the people in the file will 
care (after all they all follow the real pirates guide dont they?). But i and
many other people felt that the true story on some of the "Legends" in the
pirate and phreak worlds should be known by the people who worship them. It
will probably change nothing, but they are all hated by a great many people,
and the people in question might take note and try not to be such assholes. if
there is one quality that all these people have in common its their arogance.

-----The Atom-----
Loserlist Compiler
---March 3 1985---

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